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Post by connorswauger on Jun 17, 2024 21:53:56 GMT
I just finished the reading and looked up the author and I read that Mailer had thrown a party in 1960 before he was to announce his candidacy for Mayor of New York. During this party Mailer was reported to have been challenging guests to fight him and then had nearly killed his second wife, Adele Morales, by stabbing her twice. Once in the back and the second time in the chest near her heart. Multiple articles say different things on how this event transpired, but after his death, his daughter came out and attested to her father’s anger and aggression towards women. After learning of this, I’m thinking of how the female characters in Barbary Shore were written and treated from Guinevere to Lannie and even how Hollingsworth treated the waitresses at the diner and how they reflect Mailer’s Anti-Feminist attitudes. There are many articles on Mailer’s conduct throughout his later life and I’d like to hear y’all’s thoughts on this. Here’s a link to one of the articles I read. apple.news/A7dA7HW-WQpWBNeJ4c2w2tA
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Post by gillianlaird on Jun 18, 2024 19:47:35 GMT
This is insanely interesting. I never knew these things about Mailer, and yet it makes so much sense when assessing his writing. It especially resonates when looking at his female characters like Lannie and Guinevere, as as you mentioned, the waitress that Hollingsworth flirts with. The most poignant of these characters for me is the waitress. The fact that Hollingsworth behaved the way he did with her and she then proceeded to give into him---almost like his behavior made her desire him---says a lot about Mailer and how he views women. Obviously I can't speak for him, but based on the article you attached and the characterization of women in the novel, it seems that Mailer viewed them as stepping stones in mens' stories or as eye candy. I will say though, that I do appreciate Guinevere and Lannie as characters. Guinevere in particular seems to have a lot to her, and she is actually one of my favorite characters in the novel.
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Post by Dr. Nemmers on Jun 19, 2024 2:18:57 GMT
Yes, and I'll say that I'm currently reading The Deer Park (the next novel he wrote), and it is very much still sexualizing and objectifying women. I think it's fair to say that Mailer was a horny little guy for a good deal of his life. According to Wikipedia, "Mailer was married six times and had nine children. He fathered eight children by his various wives and informally adopted his sixth wife's son from another marriage." Who knows how many women he had outside of his six marriages!! (Problematic doesn't even begin to describe it)
So I think it's fair to commit the authorial fallacy and read Norman Mailer into the character of Mike Lovett--- him just picturing that he would be seduced by the landlord and a fellow roomer while he was working on his novel...
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