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Post by reluedders on Jun 19, 2024 13:52:52 GMT
This is the point in the novel where I started to note a lot of existential moments that Fred was having. In part 1 I noted a section where it said " His emotions subsided and he came to himself. What was he saying? A sense of the life he had left aboveground crushed him with a sense of guilt. Would not God strike him dead for having such thoughts?" So, it seems like he had a belief in God before going underground, but then obviously, towards the end that faith was fleeting. Was the choir singing somehow connected to all of this? He goes back to that a lot, talking about how he would hear the choir, then wouldn't. Was this his moving away from faith?
On page 109 it says "Once or twice he made an effort to take hold of himself, to shake off this weird feeling, to go back to his former state, for he was afraid of this strange land; but the task of eluding these new forces was difficult and he shrugged his shoulders in surrender." Is that him trying to go back to his faith in God?
I'm sorry for all of the questions, but this book really made me think a lot.
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Post by shelbygraham on Jun 23, 2024 4:22:08 GMT
I think that Fred is "moving away" from most things in his life, not just his faith. He also completely disregards his wife and baby as soon as he breaks free from the police, never thinking of them again. Before escaping, all he could think about was wanting to go back home and be with his pregnant wife. But then he lets go of all that was important to him once he escapes from the police. His entire world changes suddenly, and his situation forces him to confront a different world. For the second quote you mentioned, I think he is surrendering to his new reality. A few sentences before it says "They seemed to stand for events that had happened in another life" ("they" meaning the objects he has collected along the way). Likewise, Fred used to stand for events that no longer matter to him.
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Post by dianarmartinez on Jun 24, 2024 2:08:30 GMT
I think he was forced to look at the world in a different way because of his interactions with others. He insisted on talking to the priest to show that he was a good man, but the officers did not care what he had to say. I think his faith was definitely being tested, especially with him dreaming of saving the baby and not pushing it into the rest of the water flow.
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