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Post by Rylee Wenzel on Jul 8, 2024 3:02:28 GMT
I found it interesting that there is a term to describe this specific feeling. I had not heard of the term before but when placing it within the context of how the Native Americans must have felt, and probably do still feel today, it makes a lot more sense. I do wonder if this kind of anomie is different though. The video explained it as being a natural change and progression that society goes through. But in the case of the Native Americans, it was something that was forced/taken from them. I guess you could argue that in society newer generations place their values and beliefs on older generations, but I don't think that's exactly the same as taking away a groups culture.
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Post by Dr. Nemmers on Jul 9, 2024 4:32:10 GMT
Good point, Rylee-- this is more of a sudden anomie, but I think that does happen sometimes, usually due to war or natural disaster or whatever. It's much more rare to have something like this, a mass anomie that's imposed from the outside.
I should mention that this was by no means universal-- there were many Native Americans who had already assimilated, and many others, like the narrator's grandmother and Yellow Calf, who were old enough that their ways were set in stone and unlikely to change. We should also mention that for many Native Americans, termination was welcome, as they wanted an excuse to become further entrenched as "white."
Still, for our narrator who is coming of age during this era, it must have been very difficult to undergo such change and to decide what he should keep and what he should discard...
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Post by dianarmartinez on Jul 10, 2024 18:25:19 GMT
I found it interesting that there is a term to describe this specific feeling. I had not heard of the term before but when placing it within the context of how the Native Americans must have felt, and probably do still feel today, it makes a lot more sense. I do wonder if this kind of anomie is different though. The video explained it as being a natural change and progression that society goes through. But in the case of the Native Americans, it was something that was forced/taken from them. I guess you could argue that in society newer generations place their values and beliefs on older generations, but I don't think that's exactly the same as taking away a groups culture. I do think it does take away from the culture of certain groups. I do agree that it also comes down to individuals believes and satisfaction levels. We all have something we may disagree from our own generation. However, sometimes these changes are forced upon other groups with no consideration of their own believes. Now in newer generations, we are able to pick what we are wanting to believe or what things we can agree on. In specific times, such as the setting of this back, there was not a lot of choice. I wish I could articulate this better, but I am not sure if my idea is getting through.
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Post by Rylee Wenzel on Jul 11, 2024 0:47:58 GMT
Hi Diana! I understand what you are getting at! We definitely do have our own beliefs and we are able to pick what things from our generation we agree with and what we don't. I agree that those changes, such as what the Native Americans went through, were a type of anomie that was forced upon them with no consideration. To respond to Dr. Nemmers's comment that it is "much more rare to have something like this, a mass anomie that's imposed from the outside" made me think of what we went through in 2020 with the pandemic. We were all forced into this situation where we had to be isolated and everything changed around us.
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