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Post by reluedders on Jul 14, 2024 18:50:45 GMT
I'm sorry for posting early, but I will be at the bottom of the Grand Canyon on a rafting trip when this post is due.
As I was reading the graphic novel, as I'm sure everyone did, I saw obvious parallels between what had been happening at the Japanese internment camps to what we know now had happened at the concentration camps in Europe. I noted several, including the assigning of numbers, which were worn around their neck on a sign instead of that number tattooed on them. There was the luggage drop-off after arriving at the train station, where they wrote their "family group numbers" on the luggage. I guess the difference there was that these belongings WERE returned to them at the internment camp, vs going to the soldiers, German families, or simply thrown away. I could go on and on about parallels, but we've all read the novel.
I was thinking as I was reading whether if the US would have known what was going on in the European Concentration camps at the time, would they still have treated the Japanese "prisoners" the same, or differently? We didn't find out until later what exactly had gone on (or so we say...), so why in good conscience could we do the same on our soil?
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Post by connorswauger on Jul 31, 2024 3:22:28 GMT
The same thought had me connecting Citizen 13360 to Barbary shore in the way that we see that the United States was not always in the right. The United States definitely made questionable decisions like rounding up Japanese Americans and forcing them into internment camps. The fear of Communism also caused so much unrest and people turned on each other left and right.
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Post by Dr. Nemmers on Aug 1, 2024 2:55:21 GMT
I do think this is true, but I also saw so many areas in which this was a very different experience from the Holocaust. No one was murdered here intentionally; the Japanese Americans were encouraged to take classes to be come more "American"; they were allowed to order goods from catalogs and allowed to serve in the military. They were even paid wages for the work they performed. Still, one of the most interesting aspects of this is that supposedly was for the safety of the Japanese Americans themselves, which, sadly, probably has a kernel of truth to it. In years/ decades past... "This type of language boiled over into deathly violence time and time again. In 1871, at least seventeen Chinese immigrants were hanged in makeshift gallows by a large white mob in Chinatown in Los Angeles. In 1885, an armed mob forcibly drove a Chinese population out of its Tacoma, Wash. homes, menacing its community with rifles, breaking into houses and smashing doors and windows. The same year, white workers in Wyoming massacred 28 Chinese coal miners. In each instance, these vicious attacks did not result in increased protections for Asian Americans, but further institutional debasement. In Tacoma, the city’s mayor, Jacob Weisbach, participated himself; in Los Angeles, the manslaughter convictions of eight men were ultimately overturned on a legal technicality. In 1882, the widespread anti-Chinese sentiment was burnished into law with the Chinese Exclusion Act, marking the first time the U.S. had ever barred a specific ethnic group from immigrating to the country." From: time.com/5834427/violence-against-asian-americans-history/Would there have been widespread violence against Japanese Americans if they hadn't been "inducted" or "interned"? Probably..... though I'm not sure we should take this on its face as the real reason for the camps.
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